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  Now question all these people disfellowshipped for adulteres marriage

  by Yomama in

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  do they get apology for getting the boot?.

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  The gist is that 3 things constitute a "scriptural" divorce with the freedom to remarry: (1) adultery, (2) a legal divorce, and (3) rejection by the "innocent" mate. One of the things that establishes this rejection is the "innocent" mate's signing of the divorce papers.

  They do include a blurb that in some lands it might be possible to sign documents establishing child custody and support but still not consenting to the divorce. I've never heard of this in actual practice, and only a fool would agree to the obligations of a settlement without the freedoms of a divorce.

  Anyway, once such a "scriptural" divorce occurs, remarriage by either party is considered scriptural, legal, and binding. Therefore, it would not be considered an adulterous marriage.

  That said, the adultery still must be dealt with and the "guilty" mate may not be considered "exemplary" for a long time, even if not disfellowshipped or after being reinstated. He or she would not qualify for any congregation "privileges" till they have "lived down" their guilt and shame. Big whoop.
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  16 Page Addendum--United States!

  by Atlantis in

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  we had a request for this, so i thought i would put it out here for everybody just in case someone else wants it.

  (16 page addendum for the united states).

  atlantis!.

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  Thanks again, Atlantis! You da man!
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  The New Files Are Back There By The Cinnamon Rolls!

  by Atlantis in

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  elder manuals in english and spanish--addendum--and--announcement.. they are sitting back there by the cinnamon rolls and coffee pot.. here:.

  https://www.filemail.com/d/grkasnjvjsedchw.

  https://we.tl/t-anqq8an2t2.

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  Hello again, Atlantis! I was just watching a live stream of He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named (on JWN) and Mark O'Donnell discussing the new elder's manual. Mark mentioned an additional 16-page document, different from the 5-page Announcement and Attachment document. Do you know what he was referring to? Do you have a copy that you can share?

  Regardless, thanks for all you're doing to keep us all informed about the Society's latest shenanigans. Take care, my friend.
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  There is No Punchline

  by Terry in

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  "i am so sorry for the bird".

  (the following is true.

  it is told the way you might want to tell a joke with a punchline.

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  Just wondering... Did you ever forgive your mom for selling all your books? That must have been a hard pill to swallow.
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  The New Files Are Back There By The Cinnamon Rolls!

  by Atlantis in

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  elder manuals in english and spanish--addendum--and--announcement.. they are sitting back there by the cinnamon rolls and coffee pot.. here:.

  https://www.filemail.com/d/grkasnjvjsedchw.

  https://we.tl/t-anqq8an2t2.

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  Thank you very much, Atlantis! The more people who have these "secret" manuals, the better. Makes it harder for the Society to lie about what their procedures and policies are.
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  "Young people ask" book claims 97% youth masturbatory or seen porn...not J.W youth??

  by Witness 007 in

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  as a youg man this stunned me when i studied the original "youth" book 97% had done it so i thought soo that's pretty much everyone i guess the 3% were witness youth!

  also "awake" claimed 90% of students had accessed porn at some time.

  everyone is doing it i guess 10% are the witness youth...how dumb was i?.

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  Hi truth_b_known! For what it's worth, I agree that parents must be held responsible to financially support any children they may have, whether that means that both are employed or just one is and the other stays home with the children. I believe it is wrong to have deliberately have children you cannot provided for, and it is dishonorable to not make every effort to provide for your children, regardless of the circumstances.

  That said, I would bet that the number of those who have never masturbated in extremely small, probably a tiny fraction of a percent. And once you try it, it's practically impossible to never do it again. So the WT's estimation of those who have masturbated is probably quite low. And active JWs are no exception. They just don't admit it.

  I also agree with the majority of the other commenters. Masturbation is not even mentioned in the Bible, even though other very personal matters such as ejaculation (in within marriage) and menstruation were mentioned and regulated repeatedly. The account of the death of Onan has nothing whatsoever to do with masturbation or even birth control. It has to do with his grossly violating the intent of the brother-in-law marriage arrangement. This is just another example of the way organized religions twist scriptural accounts and take them out of context as a premise to control every aspect of their followers' lives.
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  2021-JW's accused of selling off assets and moving cash to avoid sex abuse compensation.

  by Atlantis in

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  2021-jehovah’s witnesses accused of selling off assetsand moving cash to avoid sex abuse compensation.. .

  some of the folks here might want this article.

  those young folks over there are really working overtime to assist the authorities.

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  Thanks, Atlantis! This kind of info needs to be spread far and wide to expose the WT for the money-grubbing mind-control cult it is.

  Please give our best to Petra! We hope she is doing well and enjoying life to the fullest!

  Take care, my friend.
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  Some Other Terms For The "Big Bang".....

  by titch in

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  folks: as you probably all know, it has been speculated that the whole universe, or cosmos, started with what has been called "the big bang.

  " but, i've thought up some other terms for the "bb".

  how about the big boom....or, the big kaboom....or, the big explosion...the big ignition...or...the big cosmic fartation.

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  The Calvin and Hobbes comic strip discussed the Big Bang theory back in the 1990's and came up with the term "Horrendous Space Kablooie (or HSK)." I love it! According to the wikipedia article about the comic strip, some scientists and universities still use the term in a kind of "tongue-in-cheek" reference.

  Here's to the HSK! Makes more sense that any religious fairytale.
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  What made you walk out on the "Truth"?

  by Overrated in

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  i had a legal divorce from my ex wife( law of the land).

  i was told not to expect to get remarried because my divorce was not legal to watchtower.. my divorce and situation seem to be a talk of gossip and even a many local needs talks.

  i wanted to take some more schooling to get a better job, there was a local needs talk on higher education and it's dangers.

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  The "straw that broke the camel's back" for me was the crap in the "Revelation Climax" book about the angels' trumpets foretelling various WT conventions in the 1920's. I could hardly believe they expected people to swallow that tripe.

  Then I read Ray Franz's Crisis of Conscience and that confirmed for all time the decision I had already made.

  The Truth© is not the truth. Never was. What's worse, the organization has gone from merely being filled with religious error to becoming a prime example of an authoritarian mind-control money-grubbing cult ruling over its sycophants with greedy iron hand while masquerading as God's spokesmen. It could give the most egregious televangelist in history a run for his money.
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  Black Lives Matter Flags To Fly Worldwide In US Embassies

  by minimus in

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  ….for the anniversary of george floyd’s death per president biden.

  smh .

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  George Floyd was a career criminal and habitual thug. Not a suitable role model for anyone. But more importantly, he was not "killed" because he tried to passed a counterfeit twenty. He was arrested for doing so, and then resisted arrest. He got so out of control that the cops took him out of the squad car and placed him on his stomach. His pre-existing medical conditions and his swallowing illicit drugs as he was being arrested are the real reasons he died. The cop's knee over his neck did not kill him.

  Still, it was a mistake to not raise him to a sitting position, and I fully agree that the cop showed a complete indifference to his welfare and a total disdain for him as a person. But it was not murder at all. I could agree it fits the description of negligent manslaughter with depraved indifference.